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May 26, 2002  11:12 PM 1

Just wondering if anyone here has any advice on handling this matter....

My mother seems to go through these swings of depression. Actually it's more like constant state of depression with a scant few happy times thrown in.

This keeps me up at night, it always has. She has been dealing with it for as long as I can remember. All her family doctor has ever done is give her pills pills pills. Well, I'm sick of this type of treatment and want her to enjoy the rest of her life. She raised us practically alone since my father was always gone to this business meeting, that meeting, etc, etc, and she did one helluva fine job, if you ask me.

I don't want to sit back and watch this one more day, but I don't know what to do! I think my father is either a) being blind to the whole situation, b) ignoring it because he doesn't know what else to do, or c) not considering it a big deal.

Any advice at all?

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May 26, 2002  11:55 PM 2

I don't know if trying to figure out your dad is the key. I think all your energy should go towards helping your mom in some way (unless, ofcourse, she's depressed about your dad).

Would she read book or pamphlets? Many times depressed people can help themselves if they can recognize what they're feeling and why. It won't make it all go away, but it can help.

Also, is she on the net? There are lots of good support communities out there -- it'll make her feel much better to know that others go through the same things she does.

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May 27, 2002  12:10 AM 3

She doesn't have the net...is quite afraid of the long distance charges piling up

Have you ever known one of those people that are happy being sad? I think she is like this...she seems disappointed in the way she's lived her life, regretful of decisions she's made, etc, etc. She never tells us this, but I listen very hard when she speaks, and I can hear it in her voice.

She is constantly reading medical pamphlets, books, etc about all kinds of things, and is very aware that she is depressed. I guess the whole thing is...nobody knows how to make it go away or at the very least, allow her to manage her depression in order to have a somewhat happy life.

At one point, the doctor told her she had Seasonal Affective Disorder....until it was summertime and she was still depressed. Then it was Amitriptilene (spelling?), Zoloft, Light Therapy, blah blah blah. (Of course, this is the same doctor who prescribed a medication to my 2 year old niece to get rid of a rash, and it left permanent redness on her cheeks that can only be removed with laser when she is older)

I'm considering have a family meeting and sit down to discuss what can be done. Should I talk to her doctor (would he discuss it with me?) Bringing it out to talk about it, without coming up with any answers, would only make her feel even worse about the situation, so I really would like to go into it with a few sound suggestions.

Thank you for the suggestions Costa. Since she doesn't have the net, I will find some reading material for her and go from there.

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May 27, 2002  9:05 AM 4

My heart is with you newfie .... perhaps your mom would benefit from talking to a counsellor.

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May 27, 2002  11:20 AM 5

everyone has regrets, things we wish we had done in our lives... but it's never too late to start doing the things YOU want to do.

Maybe she'd like to get involved in some community groups, or take a class or something. sounds like a class on basic computer use wouldnt hurt =)

depression is a diagnosed disease, but many people only "think" they have a medical condition when they actually only need something to do, something to look forward to.

mondays make me depressed (die you stupid alarm clock) but I always have a friday to look forward to =)


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May 27, 2002  11:27 AM 6

I feel for you Newfie Gal. The line of work I was in for the longest time was this exact thing.
The doctor that is giving her these prescriptions is it a general practioner? Has she been to see a psychologist? If she hasen't maybe you could mention it to her. I know some people attach a stigma to seeing a psychologist but some people need that impartial person that they can open up to and not feel judged. I've went to first time appointments with alot of clients and found it was helpful to them as sometimes they don't see some of the things that they do and they like to have the help of someone to guide them through that first meeting. Maybe you could ask to attend the first session with her.
As I said before I really do feel for you, it's not easy to see someone you care about feeling down and most of the time them not even know why they are. I send

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May 27, 2002  11:39 AM 7

Hi there, I work in the mental health field... You can PM me and I can send you some info.... (that goes for anyone in the bowl ... especially those living in Eastern Ontario). I'd be more than happy to help out...

Depression is very complicated. It can be related to a life situation or to something organic. In this case, I think your mom needs counselling and drugs.... It would be interesting to find out what the doctors have diagnosed her with... dysthimia, major depression, bipolar depression.... these different types of depression require different types of treatment.... I strongly urge your mom to see a psychiatrist (vs a general practioner). Although GPs are good, they are usually not specialists in the mental health field....

I know how hard it is to deal with a depressed person (stranger and/ or family member). Good luck. PM me if you want to ...

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May 27, 2002  2:22 PM 8

Originally posted by corny
specialists in the mental health field....



No offence, but can you define "specialist"? They've become drug dispensers and that's about it.

Good points Corny, and generous of you to offer to help.

I would suggest Paxil.... very light drug (no side effects except initially) and very effective. I started taking it to board a plane to Calgary in January and I've been taking it ever since. I have come to think that before I was taking it, I very well may have been mildly depressed. I was a sufferer of severe panic attacks and they have all but disappeared with this lone medication I originally took to get up the courage to get on a plane.

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May 27, 2002  6:00 PM 9

I am by no means an expert on depression from a treatment point of view. I was depressed a few times in my life (mostly during school, stress and all that), although luckily not often. I personally am leary of drugs, and tend to think that doctors these days are a little too quick to prescribe medication. I remember having a roomate who during university who was pretty stressed and had recently broke up with a long term boyfriend (her decision although i suppose it doesn't matter when it's been so long, still hard) and the doctor at the school clinic prescribed some sort of anti depressent, I kind of thought at the time that if she'd just had a good friend to talk to, got a little direction and possibly quit smoking up everyday, she may have got through this period with out medication, but instead was using it sort of as a crutch. There's just a some scary statistics out there about the number of people on anti-depressents these days and i wonder if a lot of these people could get through it with a counsellor, or even a good friend. I think for sure your mother needs to see a new doctor, someone a little more knowledgeable in this particular are and who takes the problem a little more seriously than just throwing drugs at it...


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May 27, 2002  6:39 PM 10

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Originally posted by sweetbabysam


No offence, but can you define "specialist"? They've become drug dispensers and that's about it.



No offence taken. What I meant by specialist is that they have studied mental illness specifically in school. I have to admit that some of them are pill-pushers. However, my psychiatrist and many more that I know of are pretty good and incorporating psycho-therapy and medications....


I would suggest Paxil.... very light drug (no side effects except initially) and very effective. I started taking it to board a plane to Calgary in January and I've been taking it ever since. I have come to think that before I was taking it, I very well may have been mildly depressed. I was a sufferer of severe panic attacks and they have all but disappeared with this lone medication I originally took to get up the courage to get on a plane. .



Paxil is a pretty good anti-depressant. It is in the newer family of drugs. However, just remember that different people react differently to different medication. Zoloft (and Wellbutrin) have worked for me. I do know of other people who did not respond to them. Also remember that the person (your mom) needs to be formally diagnosed with depression before being prescribed any meds for depression. If she is bipolar, for example, some antidepressants have a tendency to throw people into a manic phase.... just be careful is my message here.... There are many meds and doctors out there... not everyone is appropriate for your mom....

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May 27, 2002  7:28 PM 11

Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I will definitely take these suggestions and hopefully it will help her.

Her doctor has never diagnosed her with any specific type of depression. (other than the S.A.D. that one time), and that really bothers me.

You know, this place is wonderful. In the beginning, I thought of it as a place to find and post freebies, but it's more than that. It's definitely one of those close-knit communities that are few and far between online.

Thanks so much again everyone
Amy


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May 27, 2002  10:15 PM 12

Originally posted by Newfie Gal
You know, this place is wonderful. In the beginning, I thought of it as a place to find and post freebies, but it's more than that. It's definitely one of those close-knit communities that are few and far between online.

Thanks so much again everyone
Amy



That would make a good testimonial. Glad we could help

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May 27, 2002  10:37 PM 13

Originally posted by alligator
There's just a some scary statistics out there about the number of people on anti-depressents these days and i wonder if a lot of these people could get through it with a counsellor, or even a good friend.


I've got to agree with Alligator here. This is only my opinion, but our society seems eager to turn to the quick-fix wonder drugs available today. I'm not saying that drugs do not have their use, but as Alligator points out, I'm a bit scared by the number of people out there on anti depressants. It scares me in the same sort of way when I think of the number of kids that I hear are on drugs for ADD and the like.

I was once depressed to the point of being borderline suicidal (if I ever meet someone who tells me that high school was the best time of my life... ), but started to get through it by talking to people - by realizing I could lean on my friends, cause some of them were going through what I was, and all of them were supportive.

I'm not saying it will work for everyone, but I like to think that people can work through these things together, even if with the help of a professional counselor, before turning to hormone-balancing brain-affecting drugs.

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May 29, 2002  4:58 PM 14

Originally posted by Newfie Gal
Thank you all for your support and encouragement. I will definitely take these suggestions and hopefully it will help her.




I think half the battle is confronting the issue, inactivity will get you nowhere. So kudos to you for taking the bull by the horns and doing something about it. I hope the family meeting or whatever you have planned goes well... I'd like to know how it turns out if you feel like sharing...


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Jun 15, 2002  10:05 PM 15

As a fairly-knowledgeable person with both diagnoses of major depressive disorder and dysthymia (chronic, low-grade depression), I would like to put in my two cents worth. In reading the posts, I can see that there is some confusion as to what the term "Depression" means and how it is treated. As eluded to, the term can refer to a disorder and/or an emotional response. They can overlap, which makes things confusing, but generally speaking, the disorder is diagnosed over a long period of time and involves judgements about the ability of the person to function in their daily life. On the other hand, the "feeling" of depression is generally a temporary response to a situation or event.
While both can be treated with medication, the latter is more likely to respond to talk therapy alone, whereas the former often requires medications (as it is the result of not enough seratonin being available in the brain for synapses to occur). Often, there is a genetic component to the disorder (this includes histories of anxiety and other mental illnesses).
Medications fall into different categories, depending on which neurotransmitters they affect. Those mentioned above are primarily SSRIs, and are among the newer (but not necessarily the newest).
It generally takes six weeks to notice a change from meds, and most often, several have to be tried before the "right" one is found. In people with no organic cause for depression, there will be no change in mood from taking the drugs. And, contrary to popular belief, these aren't "happy pills", as they have subtle effects on those they help.
Talk therapy with a psychiatrist (medical doctor) is generally expected in conjunction with meds. Psychologists (Degreed, but not medical doctors, cannot prescribe meds). Counselors are anyone who calls themselves that (always check qualifications!!!).
I know I have rambled and lectured here, but I hope that my information has helped someone understand depression more clearly. There is so much information out there, just make sure what you are reading is medically-sound.


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