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Dec 27, 2004  6:37 PM 1

Please consider donating to the Southeast Asia Earthquake-Tidal Wave relief efforts...see upper right hand corner of this URL for details:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nati...nami041227.html

These organizations really need your help during this time of urgent need!

THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Dave

PS I hope this post is okay. Please let me know if it isn't.

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Dec 28, 2004  2:34 PM 2

I agree, I'm urging my friends to send some donation to the red cross or any of the other organizations listed there..

I'm quite disappointed that once again, canada is not going to mobilize the DART program we have.. What else do we have it for?


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Dec 30, 2004  6:56 AM 3

Originally posted by othdawg
I agree, I'm urging my friends to send some donation to the red cross or any of the other organizations listed there..

I'm quite disappointed that once again, canada is not going to mobilize the DART program we have.. What else do we have it for?



I thought this as well. I was listening to a discussion this morning, though, and apparently it would cost $7 million to mobilize DART and it would actually be more useful to just send money to existing organizations.
DART is more helpful for a disaster that is in one specific location but this disaster is spread out over immense areas. For example, DART has the equipment and infrastructure for a water purification plant, but the WHO says it would probably be better to use local ressources for this because there isn't any one large place and you can't bring in thousands of plants.
This whole situation just seems so overwhelming.


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Dec 30, 2004  6:17 PM 4

I just donated $50. Money is obviously tight at this time of year....but I feel it's my duty to do so. If a disaster like this happened in my area I sure would be thankful for any support/relief that I'm sure would pour in from around the world.

Thanks for the link.

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Dec 30, 2004  8:40 PM 5

http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/...?hub=topstories

Excerpts include:

"We are also responding with a new initiative that will see the Government of Canada match the generosity of Canadians dollar-for-dollar," Graham added.

Explaining the program, Minister Carroll later said that Ottawa will match cash donations to a number of Canadian organizations, retroactive to Sunday's massive 9.0-magnitude quake.

"We will match donations until January 11, at which point we will reassess the needs of the area," she told reporters in Ottawa.

The Canadian Red Cross, Oxfam Canada, Save the Children, World Vision and Medicins Sans Frontieres are among the groups included in the initiative, she said.

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Jan 01, 2005  12:45 AM 6

My mother asked me to help her donate some money, but I'm having trouble deciding which organization to recommend. Oxfam and UNICEF look ok. I like how both of their websites allow you to specify which emergency your donation will go to. World Vision has a Christian agenda, so I'm hesitant to recommend them. I'm also hesitant with Red Cross because of how poorly they responded to questions about how monies collected for the victims of 9/11 were distributed. And it seems all of these organizations are as secretive about their finances, and how funds are used, as private companies.

So, who's "good"?


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Jan 01, 2005  10:46 AM 7

Originally posted by Rustling Leaf
My mother asked me to help her donate some money, but I'm having trouble deciding which organization to recommend. Oxfam and UNICEF look ok. I like how both of their websites allow you to specify which emergency your donation will go to. World Vision has a Christian agenda, so I'm hesitant to recommend them. I'm also hesitant with Red Cross because of how poorly they responded to questions about how monies collected for the victims of 9/11 were distributed. And it seems all of these organizations are as secretive about their finances, and how funds are used, as private companies.

So, who's "good"?



I am pretty sure that over 80% (~81% based on a recent newscast) of a donation to World Vision goes to where it is actually needed....exact figures have been published. The remaining 20% or so goes towards administration and other expenses.

Figures for Canadian Red Cross and Oxfam Canada are about 90% with 10% to admin. Not sure about Unicef Canada. The Red Cross seems to be the most "popular" charity of the bunch. FWIW, you immediately get electronic tax receipts from the Canadian Red Cross and Oxfam Canada. Still awaiting from Unicef Canada (probably snail mail). No personal experience with World Vision.

Dave

edit - made corrections to percentages based on numbers obtained from a recent newscast.

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Jan 01, 2005  7:30 PM 8

Originally posted by Rustling Leaf
My mother asked me to help her donate some money, but I'm having trouble deciding which organization to recommend. Oxfam and UNICEF look ok. I like how both of their websites allow you to specify which emergency your donation will go to. World Vision has a Christian agenda, so I'm hesitant to recommend them. I'm also hesitant with Red Cross because of how poorly they responded to questions about how monies collected for the victims of 9/11 were distributed. And it seems all of these organizations are as secretive about their finances, and how funds are used, as private companies.

So, who's "good"?



Check this site out:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/
You can search for the charity in question and it gives you a break down of where the money goes.

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Jan 02, 2005  12:29 AM 9

Thanks DavidY and Ivy for the info. This will help me make a more informed choice, which in turn will hopefully enable the best help for those in need.


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Jan 02, 2005  8:35 AM 10

This is from today's WSJ and applies to the US. Unfortunately the only similar site that I know of in Canada died due to neglect http://charityrank.ca/ however you can still get basic info from CRA http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/charit..._interim-e.html.

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On Charities

By JANE J. KIM
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
January 2, 2005

When donating to the recovery efforts in southern Asia, be careful about where you give.

A number of online resources can help donors vet charities and nonprofit groups. One is InterAction.org (www.interaction.org), which requires that relief groups meet certain criteria in order to be a member. Charity watchdog groups such as the American Institute of Philanthropy (www.charitywatch.org) or Charity Navigator (www.charitynavigator.org) judge charities' financial practices using a letter grade or four-star system. Guidestar.org (www.guidestar.org) lets you download copies of the IRS filings for nonprofits in its database. The Better Business Bureau Wise Giving Alliance at www.give.org also issues reports on charities according to financial and governance standards.

Since many self-evaluating programs are voluntary, some charities might not choose to submit to evaluations or adopt performance guidelines. Also, the information that charities provide on the IRS Form 990, which many of these programs rely on, may be incomplete.

Since charity scams are likely to spring up in the wake of the disaster, it's a good idea to ask for a copy of the charity's audited financial statements, says Daniel Borochoff, president of American Institute of Philanthropy. "If you ask a few questions, the scammer types are not going to bother," he says.

The best way to help out is to make a cash contribution instead of donating food, supplies or clothing since it gives the relief organizations the flexibility to buy items quickly and more efficiently.


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Jan 02, 2005  8:02 PM 11

Thanks, bylo. That's a lot of useful links.
In the end, we decided to donate to UNICEF. It's not much, but it's better than nothing, I guess.


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Jan 03, 2005  1:54 AM 12

Is this really an appropriate topic for the Intensely Serious forum?

"Wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things" - Ecclesiastes:10-19
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Good point, Comon Cents.
I'll move this to the more widely-read "Thinking Outside the Bowl" area. While certainly serious this is not a subject of debate and is of interest to everyone in the bowl.


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