Do you still feel the same about Tom after his recent antics?

What has he done? I haven't been following him at all.....

I'm still drooling over my biography mag and JBJ..... Although I do think Cruise has nice pearly whites...

As a person who HAS suffered from the REAL and AWFUL illness of postpartum depression, I am appalled by his recent behavior and comments to the effect that there is no such thing. Attacking personally Brooke Shields on national Tv for writing her book and talking about this "non existant illness, that we just need vitamins and exersise and we'd be fine" was just WRONG!

As you can tell Tom has never suffered from depression or had anyone close to him feel the effects either. If he had he would never be saying the things he is. It is very real , It is a medical condition effecting Millions of people worldwide. How can he act as he has been? I really Don't know.

I hope Kate realises before she marries him what kind of person he really is. I always thought he was cute but after he has shown his "true colors" I am NOT a Tom Cruise Fan anymore.

It is getting late and This is a topic I could say more about.. I will
tomorrow.

The whole Katie thing dosn't bother me. I thought it was really sweet and it kinda lifted my spirits. But then!! With all the stuff that started spouting out of his mouth My mouth just dropped! Does anyone else seriously wonder if this guy is bi-polar? Having a little manic episode is he? Oh well, he dosn't believe in mental illness. All the more entertainment for us. Cause like he says all that science is bullshit right?!! Can you imagine? All these institutions all over the world that study medicine got together and created the idea of mental illness and whatever else he dosn't believe in. Brings to mind with all his little temper tantrums "Doth protest too much"
Live and let live I guess. As long as we educate ourselves and our children.
Just so you don't think I'm being careless, I have also suffered postpartum twice. The worst was with my middle child. FIVE years of it!! There is nothing funny about it and I DO find it very disturbing to hear it so easiy dismissed.

As one who has never suffered postpartum depression I feel enormously for anyone who has after seeing Brooke Shields on Oprah. What a sad story! I do wonder though if some women are being too harsh with Tom Cruise about his opinions and thoughts. I don't actually believe that what he said was all taken in the correct context. I know that people have been misquoted and many times we only see what the press wants us to see. This whole thing with Katie is ridiculous. Tell me ladies, would any of you listened to a bunch of blabbering people telling you who to date or not to date. Same with the men. Today's theory is you do what feels good and their relationship looks a little bit like that.
Besides, just because he is Tom Cruise does not excuse him from having his own opinions and thoughts. If you don't like what he has to say then flip the page or turn the channel!
Just one person's opinion!
Nemo

Originally posted by Radeon As a person who HAS suffered from the REAL and AWFUL illness of postpartum depression, I am appalled by his recent behavior and comments to the effect that there is no such thing. Attacking personally Brooke Shields on national Tv for writing her book and talking about this "non existant illness, that we just need vitamins and exersise and we'd be fine" was just WRONG!

Well I can't say I'm a fan of his, however what he did say is just plain stupid. I did a quick search and I'm glad to see Brooke Shields is speaking out about his comments. Its interesting that he knows what a woman's body goes through after childbirth and the effects of horomonal fluctuations etc. I think he just made an ass out of himself and his female fan base will really decline.

Maybe his comments have to do with his Scientology beliefs. Man, if only vitamins were the cure, postpartum depression would be non-existant.

You know, I just read the whole transcript for the Today Show and I think that Tom Cruise had very valid points and was in no way disrespecting anyone. He was just saying, and I firmly believe, that many people go on these drugs and never face the problems they are having. I have many family members on antidepressants and I completely agree that all they do is mask the problems they are having making it harder to face everyday tasks and makes it almost impossible to get off of these drugs in the years ahead. In fact I have a friend who has been on these drugs for about 35 years and goes snakey when her doctor tries to get her off of them. She just goes to different doctors until she gets the meds she needs. She is also on government assistance because she can't work due to her condition and is probably the most inept person I know. Maybe reread the interview with a clear and open mind and try to see what his point is instead of taking offence right off the bat. Sometimes the truth hurts!
Nemo

Hey Nemo, do you have a link? I haven't seen or read the whole thing and would like to. From what I've heard though, wasn't he basically denying the way Brooke was feeling after childbirth? Wasn't childbirth the cause of her depression and there were no other issues involved?

Originally posted by Hayseed Hannah Hey Nemo, do you have a link? I haven't seen or read the whole thing and would like to. From what I've heard though, wasn't he basically denying the way Brooke was feeling after childbirth? Wasn't childbirth the cause of her depression and there were no other issues involved?

Here's a link to the whole transcript:

Today show

I think it was deplorable for him to publicly air his thoughts about brooke shields. I saw her on oprah and feel she was very brave to come forward with her story. He's entitled to his opinion, but someone so in the public eye should consider keeping his opinions to himself...

Personally, I read the transcript and i saw clips from the interview and he did seem rather manic. Like, honest to god, how many times can he say "Matt, matt, matt, listen to me matt...". i agree with autumn... if ever i've seen someone manically and 'imbalanced', chemical or otherwise - it was then...

as the old saying goes... walk a mile in the other person's shoes..

Brooke Shields retort is good: "I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression."

yeah, i'd bet tom has never had the experience of having his estrogen and progesterone levels plummet after childbirth...

Originally posted by Nemo You know, I just read the whole transcript for the Today Show and I think that Tom Cruise had very valid points and was in no way disrespecting anyone. Nemo

I will agree that he had some valid points, but I think some of these comments, while i suppose not technically 'disrespectful' are just a tad ludicrous:

I know that psychiatry is a pseudo science. ... You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do. ... There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. ... And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt. ... Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even — you're glib.

and where exactly did he get all this 'knowledge' - propaganda from the scientology machine?

The sooner Western civilization gets over it's Star-centric ideas, and quits worshipping these people, the better.

That's right! They put their pants on one leg at a time, just like you.

Ok, I just read that Transcript and He is NOT coming off well in that interview. When was the original Interview when he first was talking about Brooke Shields. They discuss it in here but they made reference to it as though he had already discussed it publicly before.

Run katie Run as fast as you can.....

How can ANYONE say there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance? I agree with whoever said he seemed bi-polar. He was never like that before. I mean he can have all the opinions he wants and so can I but If I was talking about people in the manner in which he is publicly, I bet people would have alot to say about that. My Goodness people sue tabloids over less then that. I hope at least Brooke is getting a good chance to speak about this in her defense. It was hard enough what she went through in the first place ( I know first hand) and to then talk about it to try and help others would be very hard as well, now to have to deal with this Bull on top of everything, It is Nuts!

Originally posted by alligator Here's a link to the whole transcript: Today show I think it was deplorable for him to publicly air his thoughts about brooke shields. I saw her on oprah and feel she was very brave to come forward with her story.

Thanks for the link. And I tend to agree with you. Talking about depression is not an easy thing for people to do considering there is still shame associated with it. I can't imagine how difficult it was for Brooke to lay her guts out on the table and discuss the horrible details of how she felt. I still say Tom Cruise has no clue about the female body and the changes it goes through after childbirth. You can't control the emotional flip-flopping that occurs and the way you feel. It 's nature, it just happens. Can you imagine the feeling a woman goes through after childbirth and not being able to bond with her child? Gosh thats got to be difficult to deal with! Exercise won't cure that and neither will vitamins. Vitamins and exercise are great to maintain health or impove health, but geez, cure depression?? I'd say the majority of women supplement with prenatal vitamins anyways.

and where exactly did he get all this 'knowledge' - propaganda from the scientology machine?

You know what, I think so. Its almost as if he's possessed. I think he's coming across looking like a fool.

I don't know what the "history of psychiatry" has to do with anything I have taken MANY courses in psychology including studying the evolution of the science - and you don't need to have done that to know that the history has little to do with the refined science it is today, except to pave the way for breakthroughs. But I do remember my very well educated & broadminded father saying years ago that "scientology is a cult" - and this in the days when the word "cult" was almost unknown. My thinking is that perhaps Tom has been like this (yes, manic) for a long time, but up until recently his publicists & others have been able to keep a lid on him. Now that he is using his sister (also a scientologist) as publicist, he has free rein to expound on whatever unfounded theories he wants to come up with, and I do think that Katie should desert the sinking ship before it takes her down with it. What on earth would happen if she gave birth to Tom's child - then suffered from (nonexistant?) post partum depression?

Originally posted by Fossil What on earth would happen if she gave birth to Tom's child - then suffered from (nonexistant?) post partum depression?

He would hang her out to dry! After of course he sent her for a good brisk walk with some Centrum.

Get this. The guy Hubbard who founded or started this scientology has this much experience-

"After thirty-one years of inquiry and thought and after fifteen years
of public activity wherein I observed the material at work and its
results, I can announce that in the knowledge I have developed there must
lie the answers to that riddle, to that enigma, to that problem the human
soul for under my hands and others, I have seen the best in man
rehabilitated."


Wow! That's from an e-mail I received and saved last year!! Right from the church of Scientology. So 31 years =my age is the total of this man experience which in his opinion is enough to override how many hundreds of years of medical research. If anyone is interested in any of the 3 information packages they sent me or a link to the church site I'll be glad to give it to you.